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The Counterfeiter

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Our son's TV crapped out and Mommie has told him he can have our 38" CRT.
So . . . I'm getting the flat screen TV of my choice for Christmas!!!
We have an eight foot wide space that is twenty feet from the seating area in our den and have a Bose 321 sound system in place.
The options for flat screens are very confusing - plasma, lcd, DLP, etc!
Does anyone have one of these Big Boys? Any input would be welcome!
 
Consider going with DLP projection if you don't mind the size. Only reason to get a plasma is if you want it flat.
 
Our son's TV crapped out and Mommie has told him he can have our 38" CRT.
So . . . I'm getting the flat screen TV of my choice for Christmas!!!
We have an eight foot wide space that is twenty feet from the seating area in our den and have a Bose 321 sound system in place.
The options for flat screens are very confusing - plasma, lcd, DLP, etc!
Does anyone have one of these Big Boys? Any input would be welcome!

Well I did see that someone was demoing a 103" 1080p unit somewhere.

I think you could almost smell the nitro with that one!:D
 
There is a BIG difference between a flat screen and a flat panel TV. A flat screen TV is just that, it has a flat screen, no matter what the type CRT, plasma, LCD, rear projection or DLP. The screen has no curve to it. I have had CRT computer monitors that have had flat screens.

A flat panel TV is either a plasma or LCD usually about 4 in thick and able to hang on a wall. I do not believe DLP's are considered flat panel. You tend to find LCD TV's up to about 40in and Plasma TV's for anything over that. Though you can find LCD's over 40 and Plasma's under that.

According to tweeter.com "Here's a good rule of thumb. If you're looking at an HDTV, then take the seating distance to the screen in inches and divide that by 2.5. Let's say your distance is 12 feet, which is 144 inches. Using this formula, your optimum screen size would be 144 ÷ 2.5 = 57 inches. So a 56-inch size screen would fit your needs best. By the way, this works for any type of TV you're considering."

Your best bet is to find a time that is slow at a store and pick the sales persons brain. Then take that info and decide what is best for you and shop around.

Hope that helps
 
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Our son's TV crapped out and Mommie has told him he can have our 38" CRT.
So . . . I'm getting the flat screen TV of my choice for Christmas!!!
We have an eight foot wide space that is twenty feet from the seating area in our den and have a Bose 321 sound system in place.
The options for flat screens are very confusing - plasma, lcd, DLP, etc!
Does anyone have one of these Big Boys? Any input would be welcome!

We have a Dell plasma we bought a few months back and we like it!! One thing for sure is if you buy a plams and plan on hanging it from the wall..have a pro hang it for you...the tv is WAY HEAVIER than it look:eek: It would really suck to have a $4500 tv fall from the wall!!! We put ours on a tv stand not only due to weight ,but plasmas get really warm and we didnt want it up against the wall (my wife thought it would catch the wall on fire:p )
 
There is a BIG difference between a flat screen and a flat panel TV. A flat screen TV is just that, it has a flat screen, no matter what the type CRT, plasma, LCD, rear projection or DLP. The screen has no curve to it. I have had CRT computer monitors that have had flat screens.
Your best bet is to find a time that is slow at a store and pick the sales persons brain. Then take that info and decide what is best for you and shop around.

Hope that helps

Jim - THANK YOU! Went to Best Buy and found the 17 year old who knows everything -:D Found a Samsung 61" DLP HD projection unit that is 3" shallower than our current CRT for $2500! I felt the picture was superior to either LCD or plasma. "Turbo" showed me that the first 100 channels of our Cox connection are still analog - looked like CRAP. Fortunately, Cox is switching to all digital next month - something to look into before you make a switch. Thanks to everyone for your help - Jim
 
Hello Jim. I'm late on this thread, but one of mine is a Samsung 46" DLP HD projection unit. Hooked up to my Surround sound system :cool: I'm very happy with it. It won't burn in any channel logo's either. I'm on digital cable and the picture is fantastic. HD is really cool too, it makes you want to throw the others away.:D
 
Maybe i can help

I am new to drag racing but have been working in the electronics field for 15 years. heres a low down on the new tv's
First off never trust what you see at the big box stores, It is very easy to make any set look like it has the best picture by adjusting a few of the controls. Once you are considering a tv make sure you get your hands on the controls and make some adjustments to brightness, contrast and tint and make sure none of them are maxed to begin with.
now as for the technologies
all tv's fall into two catagories
analog or digital
analog

CRT
(pro's)
Still has the best possible picture, fairly forgiving to poor incoming signals.
(cons)
Size and weight

digital
all digital sets have one drawback, unlike analog sets that can make the most out of poor signals all of the digital sets have a chip inside called a scaler, what this chip does is take the analog picture information and calculate what color and brightness level each and every pixel should be considering that the average tv has around 1 million pixels that are changing 30 time a second this is alot of calculation for the chip to make. A very large portion of the price differance between the cheap sets and the high end ones can be this chip. In fact it is not unheard of to buy an external scaler that can cost around $5000 by itself.
Digital sets have a problem with very fast moving objects, they tend to make the edges either seem very jagged or the object a little jerky

Plasma
Plasma is what i call an active display,meaning that each pixel is actually creating the light that you see.
(pros)
Will give you the best picture and most contrast ratio of all of the digital sets.
Very good color reproduction. Size
(cons)
Plasma can "Burn In" if left with a static image for too long, ever see the screen at an ATM where you can still see the welcome screen once the screen changes, this is burn in not good in a TV. they are getting better but something to watch for. Also Plasmas are basicly consuming themselves when producing a picture so the brightness will slowly go away with use although this is measured in the thousands of hours.

Both LCD and DLP are what i call passive displays, the light that you see is either being filtered through a million little filters(LCD) or bounced off a million little mirrors(DLP)

LCD televisions come in two flavors LCD projection and LCD flat screen.


LCD Projection
LCD projection uses three little Panels one for green, red, and blue. The white light is split into the three primary colors and passed through the lcd panels to create the picture you see on the screen and i feel will give you the better picture between LCD and DLP projection sets
LCD televisions come in two flavors LCD projection and LCD flat screen
LCD projection.

LCD flat screen
As a general rule LCD flatscreens make sense below the 42 inch screen size. they do make them larger although they usually cost more then the same size plasma.

DLP

DLP sets very often use only one chip to make the three different colors so instead of making the calculations 30 times a second they have to make them 90 times a second. The light is passed through a color wheel that is spinning around 10,000 rpm and when the wheel is green all of the mirrors that need to be green are switched on. Because of the color wheel system DLP seem to have the hardest time with very fast moving objects.

They do make three chip DLPs although the are way more expensive.

So in sumation, Here are the technologies in order of picture quality.
CRT
Plasma
LCD
LCD projection
DLP

That is not to say that a cheap plasma will beat a very good DLP, this is more of a general Rule of what each technology is capable of

Hope it helps and if you have any other questions please feel free to ask.


Todd
 
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Todd - great stuff! Did a bunch of research this morning and you are dead on.
However, when I got to Best Buy, I immediately saw that the color and contrast on plasmas were (for my taste) oversaturated. After looking at lot of projection sets, I found I perferred the DLP. The picture on Mitsubishi sets (which were $1500 more than Samsung) was clearly less "pleasing". So . . . the decision was made, after wife approved. Guess you go with what fits for you.
Big Box stores - I don't know if our local Best Buy store is an exception to the norm, but I have always been very happy with product knowledge. "Turbo" didn't have to go to a lot of effort to alert me to the problem with analog signals. This exactly what I encourage my people to do - even if we lose a print job. Do you think I would consider another electronics store?

Jim - wife immediately turned down your formula!
240" divided by 2.5 + 96" !!!
"But Honey, Jim said . . ." - :D
 
I should have mentioned...

The most important thing is what looks good to you. and almost more importantly what will fit the room and situation. as for best buy they are like every one else, some guys know their stuff and some are just killing hours for a paycheck. If you are happy with the service and knowledge you are recieving then thats great and no need to look elsewhere but be sure to at least know enough about the product you are looking at so that your BS detector has a baseline to go by. I have from time to time stoped in and asked easy questions that have recieved answers from dead on correct to could not be farther from the truth. If you need any further help or just want to run anything by me just let me know. This goes for any of the Mater community. I absolutly love this stuff and hate it when someone makes a poor decision based on inacurate information.

Todd
 
The most important thing is what looks good to you. and almost more importantly what will fit the room and situation. as for best buy they are like every one else, some guys know their stuff and some are just killing hours for a paycheck. If you are happy with the service and knowledge you are recieving then thats great and no need to look elsewhere but be sure to at least know enough about the product you are looking at so that your BS detector has a baseline to go by. I have from time to time stoped in and asked easy questions that have recieved answers from dead on correct to could not be farther from the truth.

Todd - don't know where you're from, but we have a store in the west where you can be assured of getting a consistent answer. It's Fry's Electronics and I don't need my BS meter because no one has a clue!
Be assured I am well armed before I talk to a saleperson. I spent $45K for a photo typesetter in 1984 - I had to pay to have it hauled off as scrap three years later because I was told an Apple computer could never replace "real" typesetting equipment!
 
Jim,

Todd is my cousin and lives just a few blocks from me here in Minnesota. We don’t have a Fry’s around here but I’ve heard of them. We usually use Best Buy too for our electronics purchases but then again, it helps that Best Buy’s Taj Mahal world headquarters is located right here in Richfield MN. just a few blocks from the BB store we shop at. When I read your thread earlier today I called Todd and asked him to reply here because I know he knows what he’s talking about… not that others here don’t, but I thought he may be able to add something to this topic. Like Todd said….. “The most important thing is what looks good to you. and almost more importantly what will fit the room and situation” If you like it… That’s all that matters!!

Brian. :)
 
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