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Jeff Burk on CBS Early show
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r2
Nitro Member
Well that's just great... 
The almighty Burk is now talking crap instead of writting it... Great!! That car was out of control after the first 200 feet of that burnout, and "maybe" he had regained enough control to hit one of the poles instead of the thousands of innocent bystanders... 
.............
And the only thing stuck was his right foot to the floor...
Until his stuck brain said, ut-oh..............
Not a good morning, sorry...
The almighty Burk is now talking crap instead of writting it... Great!! That car was out of control after the first 200 feet of that burnout, and "maybe" he had regained enough control to hit one of the poles instead of the thousands of innocent bystanders... .............And the only thing stuck was his right foot to the floor...
Until his stuck brain said, ut-oh..............
Not a good morning, sorry...
JRX
Nitro Member
Where is the duct tape.....my head is going to explode!
Here's the video... CBS News Video - Top Stories and Video News Clips at CBSNews.com
Here's the video... CBS News Video - Top Stories and Video News Clips at CBSNews.com
Bullet
Nitro Member
Well that's just great...
And the only thing stuck was his right foot to the floor...
Until his stuck brain said, ut-oh..............
Not a good morning, sorry...
Since when do you know EVERYTHING!
Ever since Eric's death you have been preaching to everyone about what they should and shouldn't say, should and shouldn't do, now you are acting as if you know everything about this incident.
I have been ignoring most of it until now, but it is really starting to get on my nerves!
Your post above is idiotic!
Go Away!
HEMI6point1
Nitro Member
r2
Nitro Member
SamuelSomeone's in a cranky mood...
He has the right to disagree with me or whoever... It is not uncommon to get tired of someones rants... I just never realized I was preaching or getting on Paul's nerves... I'm a bit moody myself this morning, so I understand... It's O.K.
HEMI6point1
Nitro Member
No problem.
Nitrohaulic
Nitro Member
Over and over and over I see people posting about exactly what happened, at least how fast the car was travelling (everything from 60 MPH to 200 MPH--the 200 was in the news), how many gear changes they heard a blown car doing on a burnout as it went by, and what should happen to everyone involved. I see very little of this qualified with any kind of "I think...." Pretty much all is stated as fact. For ONE incident, there sure are a lot of conflicting "facts", huh?
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Von Halen
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The founder of Cars for Kids, Larry Price, was standing in the road during the burnout, signalling each driver when to start and stop. Drivers usually burn their tires for 20 to 50 feet Price said, but Critchley went much farther before losing control.
There were four professional drag-racers at the show, and each was supposed to do one burnout, Price said. Most people burn the tires for less than 50 feet, but Critchley went much farther than that before losing control, Price said.
I guess, according to some here, I probably shouldn't be posting these quotes about this incident. And, I shouldn't be posting my opinion either. The same people that are crying about all the speculation and finger pointing, would be the first ones pointing fingers if any of those victims were their loved ones. We all have opinions. If you don't want to hear them, or read them, then stay off the message boards. Lock yourself in a closet. And damn sure don't be a hypocrite, and spew your opionion about ANYTHING ever again.
There were four professional drag-racers at the show, and each was supposed to do one burnout, Price said. Most people burn the tires for less than 50 feet, but Critchley went much farther than that before losing control, Price said.
I guess, according to some here, I probably shouldn't be posting these quotes about this incident. And, I shouldn't be posting my opinion either. The same people that are crying about all the speculation and finger pointing, would be the first ones pointing fingers if any of those victims were their loved ones. We all have opinions. If you don't want to hear them, or read them, then stay off the message boards. Lock yourself in a closet. And damn sure don't be a hypocrite, and spew your opionion about ANYTHING ever again.
Nitrohaulic
Nitro Member
50 ft is not that far, 3 ft shorter than the trailer I'm pulling. I've done burnouts that long in a bracket dragster. I wouldn't EXPECT a pro mod to do a burnout in as little as 50 ft.
Bullet
Nitro Member
Exactly Ron!!
From what I saw on the video, I agree that some VERY stupid decisions were made by many people which contributed to this tragic, tragic accident.
Again, my heart goes out to all involved, especially to those with loved ones injured or lost. I can't imagine their pain. My thoughts are also with Troy, the AMS team and event organizers as I am sure they don't know what to do with themselves.
We don't know that there weren't any mechanical malfunctions that contributed to this accident, we don't know that Troy didn't try to hit the pole to try and minimize the pending impact.
Joker
Nitro Member
I can honestly say that if my sister, brother, dad, child, etc whoever got killed in that situation I would be upset b/c I dont think it was a very smart thing to do, however I know it was an ACCIDENT and I would not be trying to crucify Troy. Thats the god honest truth whether any of yall believe it or not.
FACT: 6 DEAD
FACT: Many Hurt
FACT: One family will bury 2 young girls
Option: Burk is doing damage control because of ties to AMS
Option: Troy may have done to long of a burnout.
Option: Has anybody looked to see it the road had a large crown to it cause the car to move to the left.
FACT: Many Hurt
FACT: One family will bury 2 young girls
Option: Burk is doing damage control because of ties to AMS
Option: Troy may have done to long of a burnout.
Option: Has anybody looked to see it the road had a large crown to it cause the car to move to the left.
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r2
Nitro Member
Ron
I'm using your post as an example only...
In TAD we do the burnout in high gear, 3rd... If we were to do it in low and shift, there would be a whole bunch of paper weight's before you pushed the button... "I Think"
As far as conflicting facts... There are always many many witnesses to a plane crash, that later turn out to not jive with most of the other accounts or the black box recordings... "I Think".... Along with UFO sightings "Probably"
And Thanks Vaughn, as if my morning needed that...
I think I'm going away now...
Bullet
Nitro Member
Ray,
I appreciate your concern, and your opinion, I would be a hypocrite if I didn't.
What ticked me off was that just after Eric's death you got on here and told everyone not to speculate, not to point fingers, what not to say until the official findings were released, a fair chunk of your nearly 3000 posts consisted of this.
Yet, on this topic you spin off on people involved in this incident without an official report or findings being published stating exactly what contributed to this.
I agree that there were some very poor decisions made, but we don't yet know all contributing factors, until we do we shouldn't hang anyone.
Cheers,
Paul
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r2
Nitro Member
Paul
Can you pin point to the many people making stupid decisions in the video who contributed to this tragedy besides I think the driver??
r2
Nitro Member
Paul
I would have to say that nearly 2,300 plus of my posts are from doing race results... I will go back and re-read my posts about what I was saying about the EM deal... But now you are doing the same thing that you are slamming me for back then... Let's wait and see, or is it because you think I have drawn a conclusion and am throwing Troy under his vette?? What really gives man?? I think I get it now... We had no video or accounts from eye witnesses in the EM case... That is a huge difference in this case...
Sorry for getting on your nerves really...
I really try to be funny much more than confrontational...
I would have to say that nearly 2,300 plus of my posts are from doing race results... I will go back and re-read my posts about what I was saying about the EM deal... But now you are doing the same thing that you are slamming me for back then... Let's wait and see, or is it because you think I have drawn a conclusion and am throwing Troy under his vette?? What really gives man?? I think I get it now... We had no video or accounts from eye witnesses in the EM case... That is a huge difference in this case...
Sorry for getting on your nerves really...
I really try to be funny much more than confrontational...
r2
Nitro Member
Paul
I promise to go away after this...
I knew things about Eric from people dealing with the situation, that I could not reveal nor would I... Which is why I asked people to wait before jumping the gun...
Do you remember all the posts about the wall, and we should do something about a safer barrier before another senseless death occurs because of those hard concrete walls... Was that what caused us to lose Eric??
And what ever happened to those concerns and everyone that was calling for that issue to be addressed??
Now that you know, that I knew much more than I could say here then, or now... Maybe this will help you understand that I do not just talk out of my butt...
As far as Selmer... Yes we should wait for an official finding, however, we are LOOKING at video, hearing eyewitness accounts, etc. So it is very hard not to make assumsions or get a pretty good idea of what went wrong... And if anyone involved with the investigation was involved with giving the go ahead to perform this "stunt" which I hate that word BTW... Things are going to never be released and cover ups will be as bad as the finger pointing... You think that paper shreader isn't smoking still??
Sorry for my rant again Paul...
I'll go back to sanding my 74 Datsun Kingcab...
I promise to go away after this...
I knew things about Eric from people dealing with the situation, that I could not reveal nor would I... Which is why I asked people to wait before jumping the gun...
Do you remember all the posts about the wall, and we should do something about a safer barrier before another senseless death occurs because of those hard concrete walls... Was that what caused us to lose Eric??
And what ever happened to those concerns and everyone that was calling for that issue to be addressed??
Now that you know, that I knew much more than I could say here then, or now... Maybe this will help you understand that I do not just talk out of my butt...
As far as Selmer... Yes we should wait for an official finding, however, we are LOOKING at video, hearing eyewitness accounts, etc. So it is very hard not to make assumsions or get a pretty good idea of what went wrong... And if anyone involved with the investigation was involved with giving the go ahead to perform this "stunt" which I hate that word BTW... Things are going to never be released and cover ups will be as bad as the finger pointing... You think that paper shreader isn't smoking still??
Sorry for my rant again Paul...
I'll go back to sanding my 74 Datsun Kingcab...
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