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Graphics design program question

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I'm wanting to goof around with this and learn a little bit.

I'm seen here in the past people post design ideas or sponsor ideas for cars that they have made.

Just getting started and trying to teach myself. Any suggestions on programs to try? Ideally freeby programs just to get started.

Thanks
 
Teaching yourself isn't impossible, but I'd recommend taking a class or two. Sometimes community colleges have one and two day courses for teaching people new software programs. I have Adobe CS5 (illustrator, photoshop, indesign). It's definitely not free, but with CS6 out you might find CS5 or even CS4 for a really good price. The only free program I've heard of is called gimp, but I've never downloaded it or used it.
 
I've used both CS4 and Gimp and CS4 is much better. I also would reccomend taking some classes. I've been messing around with photoshop for several years and know maybe 5% of the program.
 
Cant go wrong with Adobe's CS programs... been working with Adobe programs for 20 years now...

But, if you take classes.. make sure you take a class that IS FOR the ADOBE programs.. i have seen a bait and switch by some tech schools.. say they are teaching the ADOBE ins and outs..but never get to them.....
 
For the stuff you want to do you can do equally well for less cost with one of the Corel products or open source GIMP. I do use Photoshop and Illustrator but good results are not limited to overpriced Adobe products

Learning a program is not the same as knowing how to design any more than buying a good saw makes one a fine woodworker.
 
Good point John, I was expecting to become an expert overnight. Just wanted to see if I could pull something off on a little project I am working on. I was also hoping to do it with free programs.
Looks like I will need to up my game though
 
The program Adobe Photoshop Elements is less costly than full Photoshop and has much of the abilities.
 
This program is excellent and really easy to learn. You can find answers to questions you may have on online forums. I've drawn these using it. It's mostly cutting out parts of photographs and stacking the parts.

Amazon.com: microsoft digital imaging suite

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Slightly off topic, but does anybody remember the name of the guy that was putting up awesome concept renders of Funny Car bodies on here a couple of years ago. He did an awesome one for Jeff Arend when they first announced DHL, and a few others.
 
I'm a graphic designer by profession. Go with the Adobe programs. All of the others are imitators. High learning curve though. Like the other members suggested, take classes.
 
So what you're saying is that it helps you to produce counterfeit artwork from others reference without authorization??????????????
No Kevin, you're saying that. How is it counterfeit when I take the photographs, then cut them up and use them to make artwork.:rolleyes:

But now that you mention it, it kind of looks like something you would do.....

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Slightly off topic, but does anybody remember the name of the guy that was putting up awesome concept renders of Funny Car bodies on here a couple of years ago. He did an awesome one for Jeff Arend when they first announced DHL, and a few others.

Dave Marek is his name...........all of his work is hand drawn. Amazing artist.

Splash
 
No Kevin, you're saying that. How is it counterfeit when I take the photographs, then cut them up and use them to make artwork.:rolleyes:

But now that you mention it, it kind of looks like something you would do.....

winged2.jpg

SPI30-2.jpg

As long as the pictures that you are using are yours, ie you took them, or you have the photographers consent there is no problem. It becomes a problem when a photographers work is used/altered/distributed/sold without consent.
 
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You should be using nothing but Adobe CS apps. If not then your working in not only ancient technology, but if your going to be looking for work in the design business, your going to be given the high-hat. (shown the door quickly)

As many here have noted, its a high-end learning, but once you do learn it, you'll see how productive it all really is. All of the products are designed for accuracy, speed and most, quality. It kills me when someone says that they know how to use Photoshop and then they start explaining to me how they know exactly where to go to work the curves function! Seriously!

When I first started designing, despite having some lengthy knowledge of Photoshop, I didn't know a thing about Illustrator other then how to get really frustrated. I got into an ROP program (which thanks to funding in the State of California, doesn't even exist anymore) When the instructor started asking me questions about InDesign: "Well yeah! I am designing!"

The fact is that I wasn't even close!

Do it right, don't cut corners and most be open-minded to going back to school. Thats what its going to take. There are going to be far more people that are a lot better then you are, but think the same way as you do--they just want to work! We are talking about a lot of really creative and artistic people!

The first thing you should be learning is art composition; color, perspective, font styles (serif, sans serif, etc. learn how and where those styles came from, because eventually, its important in choosing the style of fonts for projects.)

Also, one of the most important: refinement. You have to know when to keep on going and when to stop. You rush it, then its going to looked rushed. You go too slow, then you won't be holding a job very long. Go look on Craig's List and see how many firms are looking for graphic designers and "Photoshop experts." They fire them often! The fire them PERIOD!

Its here that you will figure out that Adobe is nothing more then a tool--a very good set of tools. You want to work with Mac, Snap On or Craftsman, then you better know and learn about how to use all of the tools and apps in Adobe's CS. You want to work with K Brand, available for close to nothing at Auto Zone, expect problems. BIG PROBLEMS!
 

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